Swedish HBs 04/02/2012
I am writing this as much for my own notes as anything else, but I’ll post it anyway because it might help to get other people thinking and might give people some insights into what I should be doing better. I have a good idea what I need to have done better, but any suggestions are very welcome. It is about testing a 90% rapport based game. The reason I am writing this also is because it is a good example of me getting back into a more rapport centred game as opposed to a cocky game. I ran almost no cocky stuff except during an AMOG intrusion. I found the rapport stuff combined with non-neediness worked well for me with these Swedish chicks. My big fuck up was not venue changing. I was out cruising lone wolf here in Spain and I hit one of my favourite bars, an Irish pub. I heard a 2 set speaking Swedish and I knew they were good prospects. One was a HB 8.5, tall and blonde. The other was a 7, not bad but it was the 8.5 who got my attention. This was a perfect scenario for me, as I speak Swedish and love Scandinavian looks. I sat down next to them and ordered a drink. To my right was the 7, and to her right was the 8.5 sitting around the bar. A Chinese woman came in selling trinkets and that allowed me a natural opener. I said in Swedish “Aren’t you going to buy something from her? I know it’s not the best quality stuff, but the Chinese don’t make a lot of money here in Spain”. The woman moved off and the chicks were now engaged with me. The reason they were engaged was I spoke Swedish to them and clearly was not a native speaker. They had to find out where I was from, they are so curious. In the past I might have run some cocky game of making them guess and busting on them for not being very good on geography. I can do all that fine, but I wanted to field test a rapport game so I got into a discussion of where I am from and about living in Spain. We talked about shared experiences of being in Spain, they asked about my book I had with me (The Language Instinct) and we joked a little about something one of the chicks misread. It was very rapport based game. I noticed the 8.5 (Monica) was much more into me than the 7 (Karin). Monica seemed a lot easier to talk with and seemed the more suggestible. Karin was not unfriendly, just not quite as forthcoming as Monica and I could see Karin was not quite as comfortable in speaking. When Monica went to the toilet I took my chance to win over Karin more fully. I talked about whether it is better to be rich or famous. I asked her if she had a choice of being only rich OR famous, which would she choose. She chose to be rich. I agreed with her because you can switch off being rich but you can’t switch off being famous. When Monica came back from the toilets I brought her into the discussion and got her opinion. I joke a little saying I’d be signing autographs later, that they’d have to wait. They laughed at that and I said I couldn’t believe they didn’t recognise me. Then I went into saying who we look like. I suggested Monica looks like a 60s pop star and Karin looks like Alanis Morrisette. I was hoping they’d suggest I look like DiCaprio, but they didn’t.  When Karin was at the toilet I worked on Monica to bring in sexual themes. I told her about a guy on the street earlier who tried to pick me up (true!). And when Karin returned I told her about him too. I told a story about confusing the word for short and the word for horny in Swedish. I told them about how I told kids in an American school to take out their rubbers (erasers). So I had both chicks into me, seeing I was interesting to talk with, feeling comfortable and introducing sexual themes lightly. Remember, none of this was fluff in the sense of “so where do you live”. This was deeper stuff, interesting observations about life. Monica, especially kept reinitiating the conversation. I was getting attention from other people around me and they were seeing how well I was doing. One chick butted in and tried to open all of us about having lost the guy she was with, and the bar man started trying to cut in too. I had a trump card though, because I could take the chicks back to Swedish and the others couldn’t join in. Still though, it was annoying to have all these butters in. I went into mind-reading to amp up the intrigue and connection. This worked INCREDIBLY. I told Monica that the eyes are the windows of the soul and she was to think of a word and send it to me. Karin knew the word too. I told them how when you are with someone who you can really feel in synch with you can know what they are going to say before they say it. I looked at Monica deep in the eyes and read her mind. I told her the word she was thinking of and she freaked out. She said I couldn’t possibly have known the word. (By the way, the word, if you want to know, was birthday). Their intrigue level was at a massive peak. They wanted to know how I did it. I told them I can sometimes tell what people are thinking without them saying it. I gave another demonstration using Derren Brown style reading of body language to tell which of two choices they were thinking of – I said I can tell if they prefer Italian or Chinese food. Again I read 100% correctly and said they both preferred Italian, but that Monica had been indecisive and had only made her mind up just before she’d told me. She freaked out again and said I was right. Karin was starting to warm up too and wanted to see more. Next I had them think of a number between 50 and 100. I got the number right but the digits were reversed. I told Karin she was sending me a mirror image. I told them a story about seeing a ghost in my bedroom. Monica was eating it up especially. Remember the way to do magic/mind reading effectively is not to use it to build value. Use your personality to show initial value and then use mind reading as an extra. If you use mind reading as the whole show, you risk being seen just as an entertainer. By this time I had them very into me. A group of AMOGs appeared over my shoulder and opened the chicks. The chicks were responding to the AMOGs and I thought “shit I have to shut these guys down.” I told the AMOG he was super cool and he was the man and he knows all the words in Swedish. He knew what I was doing (trying to shut him down) and tried to shut me down in return. There was a brief exchange of about 30 seconds where he’d try to shut me down in return, then he said he was not trying to move in on my chicks. I said they aren’t my chicks and I don’t even like them. I don’t think the chicks heard that, but anyway he left and I could work on them again more. They asked how I could tell so much about them (referring to the mind reading). I told them I am interested in how people communicate with others and how the transmit meaning to others non-verbally. I patterned them lightly on seeing qualities of a good communicator. I patterned them on how they can lose themselves in an experience like a book or a film. I discussed Keats and Byron with Monica. We talked about being language nerds together and I got them high fiving about us all being language nerds. They laughed and liked that. I playfully punched Karin on the arm and told her to “watch it kiddo.” Karin asked about clubs to go to in the area. I told her I know where one place is. This is where I fucked up. I didn’t venue change them. This was the perfect time to suggest showing them where the club was. This is my major learning for tonight. I need to get venue changing totally ingrained into my game every time I am getting good IOIs with chicks. I sometimes go for the venue change and I have no excuses for not doing this here, it was a perfect time to suggest moving on. It was lack of practice at venue changing. I think I need to work on this a bit consciously because where I grew up a lot of the sarging was one night stand material where you got from bar or club to the taxi and home, without using venue changing much. I should have gone for the venue change and if it didn’t come off I could still have gone for a meeting follow up. I set up a meeting for the next way, leaving them with the suggestion that they might get to see or learn some mind reading. I dangled this in front of them to reduce chances of flaking. They agreed it meet up the next day to have lunch together. They kissed me on the cheek Spanish style without me going for it. I left knowing I’d failed to venue change. It is not so bad when one fucks up and don’t know why, but it is worse when you know what you should do and didn’t do it. Then there is no excuse except lack of practice. Even if I didn’t get the venue change it is likely I’d still have got the follow up meeting, so I have nothing to lose by going for the venue change. In fact it might have been better to use the foot in the door principle and got them to agree to the follow up meeting first and then gone for the bigger request of venue change. This is covered in Cialdini’s book “Influence”. Has anyone experimented with this form of closing? i.e. small request and then bigger one after the smaller one has been accepted. It’s weird but my middle game is really solid. My opening is good with neutral entertaining openers and physically closing for kisses is pretty straightforward for me, I am used to it. What I need to work on is closing verbally for venue changes suggesting getting together intimately. Where I grew up it was a lot of cavemanning. If I’d been in an isolated postion with either of them (i.e. if I’d venue changed and isolated) the physical part would have come naturally to me, it always does. So I will meet them tomorrow afternoon and see what happens. Shit, this is supposed to be fast seduction. It could happen tomorrow of course but still, I had a terrific chance here tonight and didn’t push it as far as I could. I love the field, you learn so much all the time if you try to analyse what happened afterwards. My rapport game was really effective tonight, and showing value to the chicks came from my speaking their language really well and that being unusual for an English guy. I’ll continue with the rapport game experiments and will post about tomorrow’s meeting once (if) it comes off. Next Day I went to the meeting place and they never showed. I am unsure whether we mixed the time up. I think I said “half one”. In Swedish half one means half before one (12.30) but in English it means 1.30. Either way, I went and waited 15 minutes and there was no sign of them. Shit. This goes to show how important it is to do as much as possible on the night without seeming needy or desperate. They are leaving my city tomorrow and I won’t see them. Shit times ten. This was only one set but the signs were all there that something could have been on if I’d been able (gone for) isolation. Live and learn and stop being a fucking pussy about venue changing. I do it sometimes but not others and I need to do it all the time, make it consistent. 1 Comment Saturday Night Out 04/02/2012
I arrived back in England yesterday and arranged to go out for a night of sarging with Rubber. I met up with him on this Saturday night and went to two clubs and some bars. In the meeting place we met the Lifeforce Vampire, a guy Rubber knows and he sucked our lifeforce with his AFC moanings and negative attitude. He seems to buy friendship with drinks though, we had a drink and then as we were set to leave he came back with more for us. Shit! What do you do when someone has bought you a really expensive drink (it is quite an expenive place). So we stayed longer than expected and had to listen to his tales of woe. This was a mistake, if he wanted someone to listen to him he should call the Samaritans. Eventually we moved on, me having tried to reframe his unhappy experience, leaving some of our energy with the Vampire. We went to one place nearby and opened some sets. The first couple didn't go anywhere and they shit tested me on my New Rock boots. The cheek! Then there was a good three set. Rubber was getting good signs from the little blonde one, and I with the taller friend. I ran the Animal Questions Routine on her and it worked well. Maybe I should have gone into the Lying Game to bring a sexual element to it. As it was during the night, I felt that I was getting rapport with the chicks but I wasn't converting it to anything obviously sexual. Perhaps a bit more busting would have helped? Any kind of patterning would have been almost impossible in such a noisy environment. This set moved on and told us where they were heading to. We opened another 3 set and chatted, I did do some busting and we spoke bad Spanish together, it was fun but there was not that sexual spark I wanted to have present. One of the chicks used to work in the same place as my mother so that might have been a barrier a bit for them. We went to a club nearby and met a Polish chick who works there. I opened her in Polish and she looked surprised and amazed to hear me speaking to her in her own language. But she was super busy and I think she knew she was the prize. A neg or two would probably have been in order here. There was a nice HB 8.5 in the corner and she was all over this guy who had to have been the most bored looking guy I've seen for ages. Here was this really cute chick kissing him, trying to interest him and he was barely registering her presence. I pointed this out to Rubber. We decided he had done some really good work on her previously and now she was chasing him because of his high perceived value. Either that or he was super rich. Don't think he was famous, didn't recognise him. anyway. We moved onto the second club and found the chicks from earlier. My earlier target had gone home and her two friends were still there. I reopened the little blonde chick but she was really not there mentally, she seemed dreamy and hardly paying attention to one thing for more than a few seconds. I think she was waiting for her friend's approval to get together with one of the many guys that were approaching her. I told Rubber where she was but some AMOG had already gone in and was kissing her. Damn! It's good to be back speaking English again for this week, and I really need to get out and practise more because being in Spain I have not been out speaking English a lot. Playing With Rebecca 04/02/2012
I had Rebecca over at my place today. I had her trousers, bra and top off and she was down to her panties and I got LRM. I was surprised to get this because I rarely get it. I invited her over to my place to cook dinner with me. I'd only ever kissed with her before while out on the town. The dinner went fine and then I gave her a tour of my house. We sat on the sofa and chatted. I got her talking about sexual issues and she told me she didn't get laid til she was 22. She asked if I'd ever had a ONS. I told her yes, but only once years ago. We started making out on the sofa. I was non-needy and soon she was getting into it. She was lying back on the sofa, getting tongued down. After about 15 minutes I suggested going up to my bedroom. She agreed but on the stairs I calibrated she was a little worried. In the bedroom we lay on the bed, her on top of me. We were kissing again and then she stopped and said that nothing was going to happen between us and she wanted me to know that because she didn't want to lead me on. I recognised this as classic LMR. Even though she is totally into me, she still has issue about not wanting to be seen as "easy". I didn't argue with her, I said sure, ok. I was thinking I'd just keep going and get her so turned on that she'd be over-whelmed. That has worked a lot for me in the past. And it did work to almost the end. She started rubbing my cock after a while. We were passionately kissing and soon she was undoing my trouser belt. My top came off with her help and soon her top, bra and jeans came off. We were both lying there in just our underwear kissing passionately. I fingered her through her panties and she went nuts. She rubbed my dick through my shorts. I put my hand inside her panties and she tightened up and blocked me with her legs. I got the message and I went back to making her feel comfortable by playing with her tits, sucking them, licking her all over. I noticed there was one place on her back where she seemed very sensitive and that would get her aroused if I touched her there. I went between getting her comfortable to getting her turned on. And I ran out of time, she had to go to take the last train home. I could have forced the issue and tried to get into her by pressurising her but that isn't my preferred option. I don't want to create a scene with a chick like that, and I'm not that desperate. I'll see her again when I get back from Spain. It was a good and sexy playing session. Follow Ups 04/02/2012
Wow, a fun night tonight. I didn't expect it because I unexpectedly reopened an ex-FB, HB Sunday. Here is the deal:- I went out and met with wings Kevin and Mixed Blessing. I don't know WHY I continue to go out to sarge locations with Mixed Blessing. I must resolve to go lone wolf rather than with an incumbrance. He is ok sometimes, but over all he ruins things by taking over in a AFC way. He is super friendly but clueless and only stands out by his friendliness. Overall though, I think in most classy places he is not worth having because he can quickly turn off HSE chicks through his AFC topics of conversation. I found him butting in on sets I'd opened and taking them into less than useful areas. Kevin is brighter but lacks game. FUCK! What have I got to do to find decent wings? I have Rubber and we go out sometimes, but that is about it. There is a guy I met on Monday called Peter and I think he has good potential but have only been out with him once, I know him through Mixed Blessing, so the guy does have some redeeming features (mainly his friendliness and outgoing nature). So we went out. Rebecca messaged my phone twice, and phoned me once but I missed her call. I phoned her back and she said she wants to see me tomorrow in town. She is evidencing interest the day after I had her naked. This is a good sign. A full close is on the menu soon I think. In town tonight I opened a 2 set of attention seeking chicks. They were playing with each other's tops and getting all the wallflowers hot. I thought I'd open them just to see what happened. The blonde one was a bit snotty. I used busting on her, telling her I'd have to check her ID to make sure she was old enough to drink in this bar. I think she took me semi-seriously because I was dressed very smartly and might have looked like door staff. Instead of playing along she tried to defend herself. Her friend came over to find out what I said. I opened the CB too and engaged her. I think they realised I was not door staff and they shit tested me. I was persistent. The old me would have turned away but I could see this was a shit test and I went back in. I played with them for a few minutes but it went no where. They were attention seekers and not into meeting guys at that stage of the night. After a playful exchange of busting and mutual testing I moved onto a new set. This set was easier. This was a chick in her 30s and 3 HBs in their late teens or early 20s. It turns out one was the mother. Can we say MILF? Mixed Blessing took over my sarge and fucked it up. Why do I bring him along. I should have learned my lesson by now. Kevin was better but I still know that when he does engage them (even if it is at the right time in the sarge) he will engage them in an AFC way. Why can't I have GOOD wings? If I was in London it would be much easier to find guys who can hold their own. But this set gave social proof. While I was sarging this set, who should come by but HB Sunday and her friend. I fucked HB Sunday for a while a year or two back and she still wants a piece of me. We ended up all over each other and she's been texing me all night. I tongued her down and it looks like I'll be rebanging her again once I am back in England in June. I could see right away she was still into me. Loads of good kino etc from both of us. I made sure to re-engage and palm-read her HB friend too. Then in the bar there were some really nice SHBs. I opened them and got them talking but it didn't go anywhere fast. I need to work on these SHBs because I'd love to be banging chicks like that. I think I can do well with a lot of chicks (and have done pretty well in the past - and this week back home has been fun!) but I'd really love to be laying SHBs all the time. How many guys are doing that? I wanna be in that gang. It's good to be good, but good to have goals. Something to aim for I suppose. Helen Of Troy 04/02/2012
Here’s an update on what’s been happening recently. There are two HBs currently in my life and they are driving me nuts for different reasons. First, there is super HB 10. If you’ve seen Troy, then you’ll know what I mean when I say she looks like Helen of Troy in that film. Even better than that, though, is this girl is younger, taller and is the next super model. I shit you not, this is the best looking chick I have seen in years and she is classy, sweet…I’ll stop there before I go overboard. It’s weird because I never thought I’d get so interested in a Spanish chick (yes I am still in Spain), so when she waited for me and gave me her number, I was in a dilemma. I won’t go into the specifics of the problem. The guys on the lounge know what is going on here, but it’s escalating. She saw me on Thursday and gave me her mobile and home number and also the number of a friend of hers who she has told about me. They both want to get together with me. I wish it was as simple as all that. This is driving me nuts at times, and almost tempts me to take a large risk. She is really an outstanding prospect. The other chick is someone I’ve know a few months and she recently suggested hooking up and has mentioned coming across to England on a visit. I suppose she is about an 8 in looks, and in personality is even higher. I’d like to get to know her even better. We’ll see how it pans out, but it would cool if she follows up on her idea of coming to England during the summer. Tonight I went out lone wolf and hit an Irish pub. There was a Scando (Norwegian) three set of 2 chicks and one guy. Can anyone say “prime targets”? I opened the guy and won him over within minutes, and he social proofed me and introduced me to the first chick. Also, the barman social proofed me. He knows me from my activities with chicks in his bar in the past. He chatted, shook my hand, and made me seem cool in front of the targets. He wanted to know how I mind-read the Swedish chicks a few weeks ago. He was so taken with the effect, he even remembered the word which the target had mentally sent to me (“birthday”). An AMOG occupied the target Scando HB 9 before I got socially proofed and introed myself to her through the guy and chick number one. I wanted this to be a tight, socially proofed non-needy sarge where I went in under the radar and they all lovde me. I was 2/3 of the way there having won over the guy and girl number one. Then as I was working on drawing the main target into the conversation through her friends liking me, some Spanish AMOG opened her first. Fuck! I decided not to expend a lot of effort trying to blow the AMOG out, thinking I could hit up new targets in the bar across the road. This was a mistake. I should have staying with the set, after all I’d established a good grounding with the majority of the set.When I got to the new bar, it was dead and the usual Swedish targets who work there were all out at a birthday party. Things that make you go “mmmmmmm…..” Opened one of the HBs there who is a regular, and what strikes me about that place is the chicks think they are up on a pedestal. It is a guy-heavy place at times, and I think the chicks get a lot of attention and this spoils them a bit. They can be a bit uppity in there because they are in demand. What I would like is a place where the chicks out-number the guys by three to one. What do you call such a place? A fashion shop? A hair salon? Why do guys hang around bars so much if they want to meet girls? A much better place would be a chick heavy environment, like the local male stripper night at your club. I used to go to those places sometimes years ago. My friends would always ask “Why do you want to go there, are you gay?” Of course not, I’m just smart (unlike them!). All those places are chick heavy and full of sexually excited girls who are feeling confident from being egged on by their female cohorts into one of the few socially allowable displays of female sexual aggression. Being a guy in one of those types of situations isn’t gay, it’s SMART. So, tonight I need to remember to push the sets as far as they will go and not take for granted that there will be more good targets around the corner. And, it let me practice my Swedish (the Norwegians generally understand Swedish well). All good practice in preparation for the Roskilde festival sarging trip to Denmark in July. Is anybody else coming? Email me if you are. Ciao amicos, adios amigos. Hej då vänner, etc. Intuition Sarging 04/02/2012
Last night was a great night and I really connected with a lovely girl. I need to guard against oneitus with this HB because she really is a sweet chick and one I could fall for because she is outwardly cute and also has a lot of inner beauty. Let’s call her HB T. I have known her for a while but had never been out with her until last night. We ended up staying out all night together and I had to drag myself out of bed in the morning for my work meeting. HB T is Spanish and quite a cutie. She had told me she would like to visit England this summer, so I’ve been telling her about what it’s like to work there. We met up last night and she brought her chick friend, P, with her who also has been giving me IOIs during the past weeks. We went to the cinema to see Ladykillers. As we walked I made sure to stay away from boring, “guy” topics and to aim my material for my target audience. I talked about the dual meaning of “ladykiller” i.e. also a good looking guy who gets the girls. They liked that theme and then I did some playful distancing by saying I’m not like that (all the time signalling that I am like that non-verbally) and telling them I’m more like Paul Newman who has been married to the same lady for decades. Newman said “why go out for hamburger when you have steak at home?”. I got that from Major Mark (thanks Major!). The chicks loved that. We got into the theme of actors. I brought up Sean Connery how all the girls seem to like him. P. said she likes Richard Gere and told her Natural Mike looks like Gere and the fun we had in Croatia with Swedish chicks who called him Gere when we PUed them on the beach in Dubrovnik. I got into themes of noticing someone who stands out and makes you think in new ways and is different from the boring routine ways of thinking, linking it all to myself. At the cinema I noticed the chicks waited to sit so I was in the middle. This was a small IOI and there was to be no CBing. I kept P. involved enough to keep her interested but turned my attention to T. who is my target. I had some good non-direct kino going in the kino, legs touching, shoulders resting against each other. Her body language was all tilted towards me during the film, another mini IOI. All good circumstantial evidence. Afterwards we walked and talked and hit a couple of bars. On the street we passed the chick from the night before who I had sarged (Tania – see other recent rapport on this wannabe poet sarge). I got some social proof from all the chicks because they could all see how I was apparently in demand from other chicks. Moving on, I calibrated that the slightly cocky stuff was not so effective and P even defended T once as I busted her. I resolved to drop all of that and go for a pure rapport game without even trying to be humorous. I still can’t believe how well it went, I’d almost forgotten how top notch my rapport skills are because I’ve been experimenting more recently with a cocky game. After tonight and the insane way they responded to my rapport game, I have resolved to stay almost exclusively with the rapport game whenever possible. Other game might be needed for chicks with shields, and I have material now to get through that, but I think my default game is rapport. It makes sense to play to ones strengths and after tonight I will certainly keep this going. Here’s what happened. It worked so well, it was scary. I was using a lot of intuitions, patterning, eliciting values, palmistry and offering insights, all the while linking all their positive thoughts to me. In the first bar we chatted about future plans, so that was kind of fluffy but I made sure not to talk about myself. I’d already got perceived value to them, so it was more matter of building trust and comfort. I went beyond those aspects of rapport though, I managed to create some massive intrigue and connects. As we walked to the second bar I brought out the Vampire Girls Dream routine and they really got into that. It allows mild sexual themes to be introduced into the conversation without triggering shields or shut down. In the second bar it really hit G-force. I started patterning about connecting with people, being on the same wavelength and knowing when you are with someone like that, so this was a kind of signal recognition and connection combination. I was gathering T’s trancewords, one of which was “open-minded” and I fed them all back and linked them to myself. I talked about intuitions about how you can know what someone is going to going to say before they say it when you are connected, and how I knew when they were going to ask me a question before they asked it. They recognised the truth in what I said, and they wanted to know how I knew. (It was from watching their non-verbal) and this created more intrigue. I saw T. remembering the words to a song and noticed her eye-accessing cues and fed back to her the process of how she remembers things as an intuition I had about her. I told her she sees the words and then she says the words to herself inside her head to check them. She was astounded at how I knew that. They talked about how close they were and I told them maybe they had been sister’s in a past life, and they bought that possibility big time (chick crack) and then I looked at P.’s palm and she instantly wanted to have it read. I did a reading on her and told her about her past and future, she was thrilled with the accuracy of it and wanted to know how I knew so much about her. I didn’t do T’s palm because I wanted to make her work for it and didn’t want to give her too much attention (Mystery Method). This left T. wanting more from me. She told me about writing in her diary and I patterned her on why that is so rewarding, that she has to share those thoughts with someone non-judgemental, with someone who is accepting and a book can do that, and some people can, but not everyone is willing or able to listen carefully, to take the time to really focus in on what you are saying, to be open-minded and to open themselves up to being able to accept who you are, what fulfils you, and what really is so important to a person. That was all linked into me as being that person. A lot of what I was doing was telling them things about themselves that I was intuiting and observing non-verabally and feeding it back to them. They found it intriguing to have someone know so much about them. At one point I was telling T. about what she does and why she does it and P. freaked out, saying “that is exactly what I was saying to myself word for word! How did you know what I was thinking?”. I was able to enter into their world and see how their minds work. They said they’d never met anyone like me before and said I must be able to read minds or something. I had to calm P. down because she said it was a little scary. I told her everyone can be intuitive but most of us turn it off most of the time or don’t practice our abilities much. That helped calm her. They commented on how I rarely spoke about myself and was keeping the conversation on them and they said not many people do that. I said well I know what I am going to say, my own stories bore me because I know the ending, I know how I think already, it is much more interesting finding out about other people and how they think. When their buying temperatures were sky high I did a Strategic Temporary Exit . This is something I do on the occasions when I know the conditions are right. I’ve never written about it before but I know what I do. Here is the structure. In a sarge where the targets are clearly sold on me and are connected to me in an insanely strong way (as these chicks were), I know and have a lot of field proof of this that by going away (to the toilet etc) for a couple of minutes is to my advantage because the targets will talk about how amazing what I have done with them is. This ratifies what they have experienced, making it more real in their minds. By talking about what they have both felt around me it gives social acceptance me and they both come to know and agree that the other chick is as amazed and thrilled at what they have experienced with me as her friend is. This makes what I have done with them very solid and can strengthen it. While I am away they talk about how I read their thoughts exactly and could tell them so very closely the way they experience things, what they look for and how they know they have it. It is a form of physical fractionation. I only do this when I know I have the hypnotic equivalent of a customer trying to push banknotes into the salesman’s hands and he is not sure if the car is actually the right one for the customer after all. The pursuer has become the pursued. Coming back from the toilet, I unexpectedly performed a coup de grace in my use of the levels of the mind pattern. It is the first time I have used it in the field and it was dynamite. I had the strongest doggy dinner bowl looks from both chicks that I have seen for years. T. leaned forward and whispered something to P after I’d finished. I felt incredibly powerful seeing those responses. They were so clearly rocked by what I’d said to them I had to find out what T. had whispered. I asked her and she shyly told me she’d said “I just blushed but I couldn’t hide it”. She had responded so powerfully that she couldn’t control it and was meta-commenting on it to her friend, maybe to alleviate some of the embarrassment she’d felt. She told me she wished she’d met me earlier in her life and that I could stay longer with her in Spain. I whispered “T. life is long and there will be times in the future for us”. Both P and T talked about coming to visit me at home in England at that point. By this time it was four thirty in the morning and time had flown by. I patterned on this as we walked home, getting them to remember times when they’d really had a special experience and how time flies. I time distorted it too and linked to myself. Both chicks wanted to stay out longer but I had a meeting to go to in a few hours’ time. They told me to come round to visit them at home soon and they’ll cook for me and play the piano. I left them with doggy dinner bowl looks on their faces. What I’d love to have had is a hidden mic to hear their conversation about me as the walked home. All in all, this was a super sarge night and I found out a lot about how these chicks’ minds works. I also saw some new qualities in T that I really like and would like to get closer to her because, like all the best incredible connections are, it was a real two way connection. Unless these chicks are into three-somes, which I doubt, I’ll have to set up a one on one meeting with T. to proceed. Here are some things that worked majorly well, and I’ll make sure to continue using whenever I can : - Intuitions that pace and lead her. Establishes deep rapport, fascination and intrigue. Proving insights to the target about how she thinks Patterning on fulfilment Signal recognition and setting myself up as having someone of those qualities she longs for. Levels of the Mind patterning Palmistry (with the reward of a follow up handwriting analysis if the palm reading is good) Incredible connections Qualities in a person she likes (and linking to self) Mindreading (not done explicitly tonight because it might have been too much for them to think of anything word and have me tell them the exact word. I’ll save that for next time) Vampire Girls Dream Social proof from last night’s chick Tania Kino Having achieved high perceived value. Chick Crack topics Centering the conversation on them Strategic Temporary Exit HB Tania 04/02/2012
I decided to go to the internet café last night at about 9pm and while I was sitting there a chick came in and said hi to me and sat next to me. It was Tania, the chick I met a few months ago when she was with her friend Lisa. This time she was on her own. I finished my surfing, we left the café together and we started walking. I said I was going to head home soon, but she wanted to go for a drink. From that moment on, because she had instigated the extension of the interaction, I knew something with her was possible. We walked and talked. We chatted about music, about actors and the qualities she likes in them. I linked those qualities to myself and told stories to entertain her. All the while I made sure we were walking in the direction of her apartment. We stopped at a place for a drink but I instantly knew it was terrible for sarging – it was super busy with bright lights glaring down. I suggested going somewhere else. Anywhere would have been better for intimate connecting. We continued walking to her apartment and went into a bar right outside where she lives. How coincidental was that? I’d planned it that way, of course. If we hadn’t gone to a place next to her apartment, I’d have led her to a bar next to my apartment. Inside, the bar was darker and less busy – much better for the kind of chatting that leads to a good sargey mood. We ordered drinks and I started gathering trance words as she spoke. I fed the themes and trance words back to her and really got inside her mind. As I got totally relaxed around her and could see she was relaxing a lot around me, I turned my body more towards her as a reward. I initiated kino on her, and she began playing with her hair all the time as we spoke during the rest of the night. She wasn’t returning kino and I put this down to her being in a public place. I built a connection – I do this well and she was mirroring me – a sure measure that we were in deep rapport. I made sure to bring in wide rapport too, so the conversation was varied and flowed on many subjects. I set up an Us Versus Them frame and this worked very well to boost rapport even higher than it already was. I did this by talking about our shared experience of being English in Spain together. I also noticed she talked about her friends in England not knowing what it is like to have lived abroad. I amped up those thoughts and dropped in suggestions about only someone who can be on the same wavelength, who has been in this position, who has lived abroad and shared these experiences can know that sense of what it is like. I played it up and included her words of “isolation”, and “separation”, making sure to provide myself as the suggested solution to that isolation. I also keep it light at times by telling some stories and making light playful comments such as “I’d never hit a girl…with her clothes on!” She talked about the time when we first met and she said she almost wrote me off. This was instructive to me because when we first met I had run a very hardline C&F game on her and Lisa. It’s clear to me now that I over did it and I had over-qualified myself to them. I’d stood out for sure, they’d thought I was really bright, but they thought I was a jerk. That’s not a problem for me though because I was acting that way by design. Acting hardline C&F almost lost me this chick, and as of a couple of months ago I have dropped the C&F material except in the lightest of uses because I was over-doing it and getting reactions like the one Tania was telling me about. She was clearly seeing a lot of potential in me tonight and was thinking to herself that she’d almost written me off as someone not to hook up with again. I told her that I sometimes use a persona to shield myself because I’ve been hurt in the past. I could have said “I was testing out an extreme cocky and funny frame when I met you back then, Tania, but I’ve come to see that it is not helping me to bang chicks as much as my old frame, so I’ve decided to drop it.” I didn’t say that, though, I told her it is not easy to be open with people in today’s world when it is so easy to get hurt by people. She bought it and we got talking about the poetry she writes. All the while I was making sure to focus the conversation on satisfying her needs. A while ago I’d stopped doing this, thinking it wasn’t alpha, but now I see the possibility of running a tight rapport game and still being alpha due to your frame – you are still non-needy and have already run attraction material and displayed your value to her through your way of communicating with her. When you interact in the right way with chicks, coming at them from a non-needy, genuine acceptance that you are the prize, it is possible to run good rapport game and still be seen as alpha. That’s something important I’ve realized quite recently. I was doing that for years anyway, but just didn’t see the structure of it. So I got invited up to her apartment to check out some of her poetry. We go upstairs and she says her bedroom is a mess so we can’t go in there. I don’t push it, so we sit on the sofa and she brings out some of her poetry. In the room next door there is a German couple sleeping, these are her housemates. I first do palmistry on her and then handwriting analysis, suggesting all the while she is feeling the need to open up and break free of her self-restriction. All the while I am kinoing lightly, fishing for kino reciprocation but she is not offering it. I figure she is shy and either needs to feel more comfortable (less likely) or she needs to get turned on a little and be led. We right next to each other and our bodies are contacting a lot more now. There’s a book on the sofa of Spanish swear words, and I pick it up and flick through it, saying some of the phrases to her and translating them – things like “I want to fuck you doggy style” and “Suck my cock”. She seems to have an interest in this (hey it’s HER book after all!) and starts reading the book to me in return. I can see she is awakening into a more sexual state. I accuse her of corrupting me, telling her that I am an innocent boy and she is such a bad girl, and I’ll go home to England totally corrupted. She laughs at that and plays along with it, she slaps me playfully and I slap her back a little. We get into a little fun fight and start making out on the sofa. After a few minutes she takes my hand and leads me to the bedroom. I tell her I want to put my new Spanish phrases into practice in case I forget them. I strip her and we practice some of the phrases and actions I’d learned from her book for the next couple of hours while trying to keep quiet because of the couple across the hall. Trying to be quiet makes it even more fun, like trying not to laugh in class when you know the teacher is watching you and suspects you of laughing. “Shhh”, I tell her again and again, but it doesn’t help. Maybe it even makes her worse. Chicks, sheesh, what can you do, though? Her bedroom IS a mess, and even messier by the time I head home with my laptop through the 3am streets and past the closed bars. English Weekend 04/02/2012
This weekend I'm back in England for a family event and it's great to be back, even if it's only for a short time. I wish it was a bit longer. Anyway there was a party last night and 2 of my sister's friends were interested at the party. The funny thing is that so many of those chicks were AFCs. Yes there are AFC chicks. It's not just guys who are AFCs. Late on in the night and also the day after, my sister said some of her friends were interested in me. BUT they would make no effort to come over. It was typical AFC behaviour not only in keeping their interest to themselves, but also in letting me find out after the fact (when they were unavailable?). I had no idea that these particular chicks were interested in me at the time. All the while I was sarging the other set of chicks and not paying attention to the chicks who were actually interested. If they'd shown any IOIs I would have known to swap targets. I've been working on my palmreading routine and it is going to be even more powerful now than before. Already it had developed into a really powerful routine but having studied some new material that allows me to combine warm reading, cold reading, NLP and SS, I now have a super tight palmreading routine. One thing I have changed is I've stopped describing what their future is going to be like in the future, and replaced it with pacing and leading them in the moment and building up connections, trust and intrigue. The old palmreading was good but I think the new routine will be a ton better. I called HB Sunday and I think I'll be nailing her again in a couple of weeks. I ran into her a couple of weeks ago when I was last home and she was giving strong IOIs. Chatted with TD and Thundercat, now I'm off to hit the hay before my early flight. That's all for now from here. Tomorrow it is back to Spain, HB T. and Helen of Troy. Manana chicos. The English Patient 04/02/2012
I was ill yesterday so I stayed in bed most of the day resting. Then I got a message from HB T asking to meet up with me. It's interesting how your biology can work both for and against you, because I came back to life a bit when I knew I was meeting her. So I pulled myself together and met her in the city centre. The first time I'd been out with her (see my "Intuition Sarging" post) she'd brought her friend along with her. Now she was by herself and the friend was conveniently somewhere else for the day. We went down by the river and sat and talked and had a drink. I did some patterning lightly, including the Beauty Is Common pattern and it went down well. The kino was going great. I'd almost forgotten how powerful a technique kino is. On both times I have been out with HB T the kino has been so useful. It lets you show you are sexual, confident and you can test to see how she is feeling about you in return by noticing if she kinos in return. On the first meeting she wasn't kinoing a lot in return but was happily letting me use kino. On this second meeting (because it was just me and her, without her girlfriend to judge her?) HB T was kinoing back to me a lot. We were holding hands, touching each other's arms and backs. Later I had my arm around her and she had her arm around me, and this was a direct escalation of the earlier kino. I'd told her I'd been ill and she started paying a lot of extra attention to me when I told her I wasn't well. She'd told me she likes the actor Ralph Fiennes, so I had the idea to link Ralph with me by telling her I am The English Patient. In the film, the English Patient is looked after and falls in love with his foreign nurse. (I am English and HB T is Spanish). This got a great response from HB T, so whenever I felt cold or warm or ill, I made sure to let her see I wasn't well through my non-verbal. She'd then come close to me, kino, hug me, hold my hand and ask if I was alright. I really was feeling ill, so that wasn't acting, but I made sure to let her know how I was feeling without telling her directly. I let her notice it for herself and therefore she thought it was her own idea to come and comfort me. We walked and talked, me now with HB T's jacket around my shoulders to keep me warm. She walked with her arm in mine in the French style. I did a palm-reading outside a pub and gave suggestions for her to feel trust and comfort and connection. I noticed that when I did a rehearsed palm reading script it was less accurate than when I use my intuition and say things based on how I've actually read the person. The learning experience here is that when I know the person a little or can read what kind of a person she is, it is better for me to follow those intuitions as this makes the reading more powerful and accurate. But when I don't know the person I can fall back on the rehearsed script. I then let her try to read my palm to ( I think this was really just an excuse for her to kino me more than anything). It was like my being ill had established a frame where she was free to hold me and rub my back and hug me in the cause of helping me feel better. I was getting hungry so we ended up taking a taxi to a Mexican restaurant which just happened to be near HB T's house. We ate at the restaurant, all the while my playing up my English Patient role. At one point she said she was going to adopt me and I could be her little brother. Has she been reading the TD Archive? I tried not to laugh when I heard her say that, and I agreed to be adopted by her. Here I used a little Displaying Higher Value technique which I have used successfully a few times. Here’s how it works – I tell her I’ve had a song in my head all day. The song is “Perfect” by Fairground Attraction. I sing a few lines from the song to help her know the song I mean and look her in the eye as I do it. If you know the song I mean you’ll know the lyrics – “It’s got to be perfect, it’s got to be worth it, too many people take second best, but I won’t take anything less, it’s got to be perfect.”. What this does is send the message that I am the selector and will only accept a girl who meets my high standards. Of course this is all implied metaphorically. My meaning is ambiguous, and chicks love this shit, they love trying to work out what does he mean by that. They seem programmed to look for deeper meaning and significance in communication. It’s kind of like the two female psychologists who pass each other in the street. One of them says good morning and the other thinks “I wonder what she means by that”. It adds a layer of complexity to you that makes her wonder what you mean. She’s thinking “is he just singing a song or is he trying to tell me I have to be good enough”. This adds intrigue and depth to your interaction and makes them wonder the true meaning. HB T then said I could sleep at her place if I wanted to. I think what enabled me to get this offer from her was the connecting and intuition material I'd run last time combined with the trust material in the palm reading, all now brought together in a frame where it is socially acceptable to take someone home (ostensibly to look after me). I agreed that it was better for me to stay at her place than to walk all the way home in my sick condition, so we walked to HB T's apartment. I'd like to say I shagged her all night, but I didn't because I was really feeling ill by this time (it was 4.30am) and her father was next door. We did hug and kiss, then in the morning continued with more touching and kissing each other. I really like this chick, she is the best chick I've been out with for some time and it would be great to see her in England. As I left her apartment in the morning she had to sneak me out in case her father saw me (hey it's a religious country) and I told her I've done the same a few times in the past too. (I remember once sneaking FB Athletic out of my parent's house with split-second timing). So, all in all a good night and lovely to spend time with a quality chick who treats me very well. That's important to me. I'm sure it's important to you too. Now I'm just waiting for a bunch of coughing and spluttering guys to start showing up at the lairs. I actually think for girls on day twos it could be worth playing around with this frame because it allows her an excuse to kino, buy you drinks and take you home. I remember a girl I fucked in a one night stand years ago (nightclub PU) – I told her I’d missed my train home, had nowhere to stay, gave her some puppy dog eyes and she took me home to her place and I banged her on her living room floor. I think if they are attracted (by looks or by gaming her verbally) and then you move into the “sick” frame, it works as a rapport builder and she can enter a frame where it is socially acceptable for her to take you home to your place or her place, cook for you, get you drinking, and you can take to your bed and have her come in to comfort you. It’s not my default game but it is something to play around with if you get the chance. This week I need to change my name to Sick Boy, it seems! Adios amigos. The Numbers Game 04/02/2012
Perfection or Numbers Game Scenario One There is a set in the corner. It’s a two set and one of the girls is really cute, just the kind you like. You go in and open them and it bombs. For some reason it just didn’t go well. Scenario Two. You see a nice looking chick and you open her. You interact for a while, run what you know to be decent game and then go for the extraction, the number or venue change. It bombs. You just don’t like that much. What do you do? The temptation here is to go home and get online and read about more theory. That’s what I used to do. You start reading the archives, getting opinions, thinking about how to tweak your game so you come across differently next time. Maybe you think “of course, you shouldn’t have been so cocky, of course you should have been funnier, of course you should have gone for rapport much earlier”, and so on. Guys, for those of us who have been reading and posting for some time now, the answer is NOT to go back and read more theory and rearrange our game. The answer is to keep moving in the field and play the numbers game. Look, anyone who has been reading online for a while and knows the basics needs to realise it is a numbers game. Perfection is not possible, and returning to the board to become more perfect is not going to help all that much in comparison to keeping moving in the field. Accept you are not going to get every set you go for. You are not going to have every girl like you. That’s just the way it is, get used to it and accept it. No amount of reading and returning to the archives is going to help you in most cases. Some people are open to meeting, some are less friendly, some are real rude. That’s the way of the world. By the way, the rude ones are doing you a favour by showing their rudeness early on so you can eliminate them from your radar early. What is the best thing to do? It’s to say to yourself “oh well, keep moving”. I talked about the “Wonder of Not Knowing” in a recent post. It’s time to get real and wake up to the realisation that because of the complexity of the world, you are never going to be able to control every situation you go into. If you run back to the archives every time you find something doesn’t work out perfectly, you will spend little time in the field AKA real life. So stop making excuses to yourself if you already understand the basic theories of PU. Scurrying back to the boards when something doesn’t go 100% well is, for the most part, excusing yourself from the field by kidding yourself that you are going back to improve through more studying. The thing to do is to just move on to the next girl you would like to meet and get talking to her. Know that it almost never works out perfectly and that it doesn’t matter. You can still get results if you keep going as far as you can with your individual target, and if it doesn’t pan out with her then there is the next one. This is what I mean when I talk about numbers game or perfection. Perfection isn’t possible all the time, but the numbers game is. And guess what? If you are less than perfect, then playing the numbers game helps EQUALISE the odds for you. Playing the numbers game helps you airbrush over you lack of perfection because the more girls you meet and talk to, the more chance you will find a girl who is compatible to your game, the more chance you will meet a highly sexual girl who wants fun with you that very night, and the more chance you will really improve in skill because once you have the basic theories, it is the field when the real understanding comes. I remember meeting HB Britney ages ago and she was into me immediately. This was a highly sexual girl and I did everything to her that I wanted, right down to sucking her tits in the back streets in the old part of town near the castle one night. She phoned her BF and made excuses to stay over at my place so I could continue banging her. I thought that was pretty cool . I quickly realised that there ARE highly sexual girls out there if we play the numbers game. Why waste time trying to crack a tough nut, why invest loads of time and effort on some prudish girl who we aren’t sure we even like all that much when we could be playing the numbers game and meeting a HB Britney equivalent every other week. In this debate of perfection versus numbers game, go with numbers game because perfection doesn’t exist. Paradoxically, playing the numbers game will take you closer to perfection in whatever form it can actually exist for you. | AuthorSteviePUA - adventurer, sarger, traveller and lover of life! ArchivesFebruary 2012 CategoriesAll |
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